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Dr. Robert Bowman says 9/11 is an inside job
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Thebzp
2007-04-09 07:39:26 UTC
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Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from
the California Institute of Technology.

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Supreme Dalek
2007-04-09 07:45:02 UTC
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Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from
the California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
Well he holds an *American* PhD (rare as hens teeth), and 'military' is
in that sentence as well, so you are absolutely right, this is a
watertight argument.

I presume reptilian aliens are also masquerading as gay men to further
their anal probing programme.
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Jim Gemineye
2007-04-09 10:03:03 UTC
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On 9 Apr, 08:45, Supreme Dalek
Post by Supreme Dalek
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from
the California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
Well he holds an *American* PhD (rare as hens teeth), and 'military' is
in that sentence as well, so you are absolutely right, this is a
watertight argument.
I presume reptilian aliens are also masquerading as gay men to further
their anal probing programme.
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Thought Bowman's talk was quite understated - he specifically states
that while evidence proves the official version/conspiracy of events
is rubbish - it is not proof of what really happened.

Perhaps you should take your tin foil hat off - If you still believe
in aliens and anal probing, it's no wonder you still believe in the
official conspiracy!
Midex
2007-04-11 07:03:48 UTC
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On Apr 9, 8:45 am, Supreme Dalek
Post by Supreme Dalek
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from
the California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
Well he holds an *American* PhD (rare as hens teeth), and 'military' is
in that sentence as well, so you are absolutely right, this is a
watertight argument.
I presume reptilian aliens are also masquerading as gay men to further
their anal probing programme.
He also flew a 101 missions in Vietnam. He was also Director of Space
Programs at NASA. He was also a former intercept pilot.

just another one to add to the list. Here is a bigger list:

First two simple questions:

Q1: On September 11 2001, how many buildings collapsed in New York
City?

A: Two? No, THREE. The Twin Towers were hit by aeroplanes, but WTC 7,
a massive 47 storey steel-framed skyscraper also collapsed. It was NOT
hit by a plane. The evidence is clear - this was a controlled
demolition. http://wtc7.net/ http://911physics.co.nr/ (Click on WTC 7
link)

Q2: How long did it take the FBI to bring charges against Usama bin
Laden in connection with 911? One hour, eight hours, a day, a week?

A: Usama bin Laden is NOT on the FBI most wanted list in connection
with 911. Why not? According to FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative
Publicity Rex Tomb, "The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin
Laden to 9/11." http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4673
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm (accessed 20
August 2006)

If you believe 911 was an inside job, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Below are
just a small selection amongst the millions of credible persons
including engineers, scientists, intelligence analysts, actors,
theologians, philosophers, authors, investigative journalists,
lawyers, military personel, politicians, family members and eye-
witnesses who believe the investigation into the events of September
11 2001 must urgently be reopened.

Seekin' that ol' 911 Truth August 2006

On July 29 and 30, and then again on August 1, something happened that
increasing numbers of people believe is of great importance. On these
dates C-SPAN rebroadcast a 911 panel discussion, held originally in
late June, sponsored by an organization called the American Scholars'
Symposium to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/c-span_firestorm_911_truth_gains_momentum.htm
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=APS&ShowVidNum=10&
Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100

Held in Los Angeles, the meeting lasted two days, and the C-SPAN
rebroadcast covered one almost two-hour wrap-up session. The meeting
was attended by 1,200 people interested in hearing something other
than the official story of 9/11. The TV audience was evidently large
enough to spur C-SPAN to broadcast the panel discussion five separate
times in four days.

Even a month late, this is a lot of airtime for stories that many
people call conspiracy theories!

The seekers after 911 truth have been around for almost 5 years now,
and they're NOT GOING AWAY - they're growing day by day!

In April Charlie Sheen made national news (CNN Showbiz Tonight 7pm)
three nights in a row, with coverage continuing every day the
following week. http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/fourth-night-of-showbiz-tonights-sheen.html
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/280606juggernautoftruth.htm

What newsworthy event prompted such coverage? Mr. Sheen announced that
he thinks the government has been covering up the truth about 9/11.
Charlie thinks 9/11 was an inside job! http://9eleven.info/
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060323162638376

Two of Sheen's fellow actors, Ed Asner and Ed Begley, Jr, agree with
him. http://www.911blimp.net/videos/EdAsner-UnityIsTheKey.mov
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7140359934129245752&q=Ed+Begley+911

And so does movie director Aaron Russo.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2947267143366647266&hl=en

Maybe you don't care what they think, they're just actors. Perhaps you
want the opinion of scientists. Well, how about an expert like Steven
E Jones, professor of physics at BYU? Professor Jones has found
forensic evidence of thermate, an explosive, being used to cut through
key support pillars in the WTC buildings. http://www.9eleven.info/911JonesPaperhtm7.htm
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=4688
http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Steven%20Jones%20Shows%20WTC%20Demolition%20Evidence.wmv

Or perhaps MIT Engineer Jeff King who also believes the WTC were
brought down by a controlled demolition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248&pl=true
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=related&search_query=
News+WTC+911+Conspiracy+Flight
+77&search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=2

What about a mathematician? Professor of mathematics, University of
Western Ontario, and founder of the Scientific Panel Investigating
Nine-Eleven (SPINE), A.K Dewdney. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Dewdney

Maybe they're too theoretical for you. You want someone from the
applied sciences. May I suggest Clemson mechanical engineering
professor Judy Wood? http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/mechanical-engineering-professor-from.html
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html

Or how about Kevin Ryan, former department head at UL (Underwriter
Laboratories), the company which certified the steel which went into
the WTCs upon their construction, and inspected it after the WTC
collapses in 2001. He found the official reports to be full of lies
and contradictions. http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041112144051451
http://www.snowshoefilms.com/

Maybe you don't care for 'eggheads'. http://www.st911.org/
http://physics911.net/spine.htm http://911physics.co.nr/

You want to hear from true patriots, military men, like former head of
Star Wars and air force colonel, Bob Bowman, who says the 'official
story of 911 is a bunch of hogwash and impossible'.
http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/10/27/oil_mafia_treason/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/030306Evidence.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6900065571556128674
http://bowman2006.com/

Or USAF Col. (Ret) George Nelson, an authority on aircraft crash
investigation. http://www.physics911.net/georgenelson.htm

Or former chief Pentagon arms negotiator for the Middle East, USAF
Col. (Ret) Don de Grand-Pre http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html

Or how about military men from other countries who are also skeptics
of the 'official' story of 911? Here's a few:

Canadian National Defense Minister, the Honourable Paul Hellyer
http://www.septembereleventh.org/kc/multimedia/movies/Hellyer.mov

National Vice Minister of Defense (Germany). Also, served as Minister
of Technology Andreas Von Bulow. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8274552561914055825

Former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces, and chief of the
department for General affairs in the Soviet Union 's ministry of
Defense, General Leonid Ivashov
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20060123&articleId=1788

Maybe military types scare you. How about a lady of letters like poet
Erica Jong? http://www.etruscanpress.org/02_september_11_2001.html

Maybe you're not into poetry. Prose is more your style. How about
Webster Tarpley author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror made in USA?
http://www.tarpley.net/welcome.html

Or authors Gore Vidal, Bill Douglas or Christopher Bollyn?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13969.htm
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bollynbeaten.htm

Or if you prefer your message in song, what about putting some of the
hard questions to music? Les Visible: 9/11 Was An Inside Job (music)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=97737

Maybe you don't trust actors, authors, musicians or poets. You want to
hear from a man of God. How about David Ray Griffin theologian,
professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology?
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

The respected Presbyterian Press has recently published his book
Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11 https://www.ppcbooks.com/index1.asp

Not just into Christianity? What about MUJCA-NET, a group of scholars,
religious leaders and activists dedicated to uniting members of the
Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths in pursuit of 9/11 truth.
http://mujca.com/

How about philosophers? What about distinguished McKnight professor of
philosophy, Jim Fetzer. http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/BigLies23Apr2006.html

Or Dr. Jim Hoffman? http://911research.wtc7.net/

What could theologians and philosophers know about national security?
You want to hear from insiders to the covert world. How about CIA
analyst and former presidential adviser Ray McGovern, an expert on
National Security who's career spanned JFK to GHW Bush.
http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/01/interview_with_ray_mcgovern.html

Or Bill Christison, a former senior official of the CIA. He was a
National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of
Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm

Or how about David Shayler, the MI5 Whistleblower?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403286136814574974

Or former cop Michael C. Ruppert? http://www.fromthewilderness.com/store/books.shtml#ruby

Or former 9/11 Commission Member and democrat senator, Max Cleland,
who blasts Bush and claims "The White House Has Played Cover-Up".
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/23/1546256

Other members of the 9/11 Commission panel also believe that
authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what
happened on Sept. 11.

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was
described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led
the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview.
"The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to
us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not
true." http://unsungwar.com/

Or what about Republican Thomas Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton, the
two chairmen of the official government 9/11 Commission Report? In
their book, "Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11
Commission." Kean and Hamilton reveal that the US military committed
perjury and lied about its failure to intercept the hijacked
airliners.

"It proved difficult, if not impossible, to raise hard questions about
9/11 in New York without it being perceived as criticism of the
individual police and firefighters or of Mayor Giuliani," Kean and
Hamilton said.

The commission even debated referring the military's lies to the
Justice Department for criminal investigation.

Why should we assume that these admissions are the only coverups and
lies in the 9/11 Commission Report? http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=117589
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm

Or Cynthia McKinney, a five-term U.S. Congresswoman from Georgia's
fourth district from 1993 to 2003, or Catherine Austin Fitts, a former
Assistant Secretary of Housing under President George Bush Sr. and a
former managing director and board member of Dillon, Read & Co. Inc.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041101130426916

Or Michael Meacher MP former UK Minister for the environment who says
"The war on terror is bogus", or Andreas Von Bulow, former German
Secretary Of Defense, who says "The official [9/11] story is so
inadequate and far fetched that there must be a different one."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11222.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8274552561914055825

Or Sibel Edmonds, a 32-year-old Turkish-American, who was hired as a
translator by the FBI shortly after the terrorist attacks of September
11, 2001 because of her knowledge of Middle Eastern languages. She was
fired less than a year later in March 2002 for reporting shoddy work
and security breaches to her supervisors that could have prevented
those attacks. http://www.justacitizen.com/

Or Daniel Ellsburg, famous Vietnam 'Pentagon Papers' whistleblower and
former American military analyst and Special Assistant to the
Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/daniel-ellsberg-comes-out-for-911.html

Or how about the FBI? Did you know that the reason Usama bin Laden
isn't on their most wanted list in connection to 9/11 is because the
FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to the crimes?
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/06/fbi-states-no-hard-evidence-connects.html

What about another country's government, such as the Venezuelan
government under Hugo Chavez, supported by billionaire philanthropist
Jimmy Walter and WTC survivor William Rodriguez, which is set to
launch an international investigation into 9/11?
http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/83785

Maybe they're all too far left for you! You want to hear from a
Republican. How about Paul Craig Roberts assistant secretary of the
U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan? http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070
http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/02/post.html
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911#roberts
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm

OK, he's a Republican, but that was back in the Reagan days. So how
about Ron Paul, a Republican congressman from Texas?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html http://www.house.gov/paul/
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Ron_Paul
#Congressman_Ron_Paul_Admits_Conspiracy_to_Create_World_Government

Maybe you need to hear from someone in GW's administration. How about
Morgan Reynolds professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and chief
economist for the US Department of Labor during Bush's first term? He
believes the events of 9/11 were a staged event, orchestrated by
people within the Bush government. http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

Since the attacks of 911 were obviously a crime, maybe you want to
hear from trained legal minds. People whose job it is to carefully
investigate the details of a crime and reach a well considered
conclusion.

Well, how about attorney Philip Berg? Berg, who has filed a lawsuit
against the Bush admin on behalf of WTC survivor William Rodriguez
says "They (Bush et al) made it happen or let it happen. And if they
let it happen, then they made it happen. And they must be held
responsible." http://www.911forthetruth.com/

Or attorney Stanley Hilton? http://www.suetheterrorists.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Hilton

Or Bill Veale, with 30 years of legal experience. After much research
he has come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were in essence
an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U.S.
government. http://www.vealetruth.com/?page_id=6

Maybe none of the above does it for you. You want to hear from "eye-
witnesses" - people who were there on the scene on that fateful day.
May I suggest you listen to the firefighters who were in the building
at the time? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248&pl=true

What about first responder, NY Fireman Lou Cacchioli who says the 9/11
Commission twisted his words. "I finally walked out. They were trying
to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to
hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let
me do that, I walked out.

"It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who
lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole
experience was terrible", Fireman Lou says.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/200705twistedwords.htm

Or perhaps to news reporters who were on the scene who repeatedly
described hearing "explosions"? http://tinyurl.com/bzg64 (you need to
fast forward a little...) http://www.letsroll911.org/articles/controlleddemolition.html

Or how about WTC survivor William Rodriguez, a janitor who worked at
the WTC for about 19 years, and was decorated as a 911 hero by Bush.
He testifies that he heard and felt explosions in the basement of the
North Tower BEFORE the planes hit overhead. William asks: "How could a
jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man's arms and face to a crisp
in the basement below within seconds of impact?" It's a good question!
http://williamrodriguezwtc.blogspot.com/ http://www.911forthetruth.com/

What about the families who lost loved ones on 911?
http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html
http://www.911truth.org/index.php?topic=endorsements

Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, Patty Casazza and Monica Gabrielle
of New Jersey lost their husbands Kenneth, Alan, Richard and John who
all worked in the WTC. Sally Regenhard lost her firefighter son
Christian, and Bob McIlvaine lost his son Bobby.

None of these people are satisfied with the official story of what
happened on 9/11. Will you listen to their questions?
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/families

Well, if you don't believe any of them, why not listen to the OWNER of
the WTC, Larry Silverstein, who admits on Public Broadcast Television
that explosives were used to demolish WTC building #7?!

Yes, Silverstein, who had conveniently insured these buildings (which
had been ordered to be dismantled due to safety hazards) for billions
of dollars just weeks before 911, said on public television:

"(The Fire Department) were not sure that they were gonna be able to
contain the fire. I said, you know, we´ve had such terrible loss of
life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. They made that
decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse"

In the demolition industry, "pull" is the common term they use for
demolishing buildings with carefully positioned explosives, an
operation that can take seasoned professionals weeks to plan.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/wtc_7_archivel.htm
http://www.letsroll911.org/articles/controlleddemolition.html
http://www.wtc7.net/ http://911physics.co.nr/ (Click on WTC 7 link)

So even the building owner admits that explosives were used to
demolish at least one of the three WTC buildings!

And if planning to demolish WTC 7 had been carefully prepared for
weeks, why not the other two?

Maybe you don't want to listen to any of these individuals, but the
fact is, a lot of Americans agree with them. Like the 83% of over
50,000 CNN Showbiz Tonight online poll respondents who think the
government is covering up the truth of 9/11.
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/fourth-night-of-showbiz-tonights-sheen.html

Or a Scripps Howard News Service/Ohio University poll taken from July
6 to 24, 2006, concluded that "more than a third [36 percent] of the
American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11
terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them, so that the United
States could go to war in the Middle East." A poll done by the Zogby
polling organization two months earlier, between May 12 and 16, 2006,
concluded that 42 percent of Americans believed there had indeed been
a cover-up of the true events of 9/11, and an additional 10 percent of
Americans were "unsure." http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm

Maybe you don't care what the American people think?

Yea, we know.

[Ref. http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=11205 ]

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WHAT POSSIBLE MOTIVES COULD THERE BE FOR A 9/11 INSIDE JOB??

These are some of the plutocracy's 'foreign policy' and other lesser
goals that 9/11 (the "new Pearl Harbor") has helped them to pursue:

* to get the American people's support for an endless bogus "war on
terror" which will ensure continued gargantuan military budgets. This
will continue to enrich and empower the plutocracy and the military/
industrial complex. http://www.addictedtowar.com/

* the WTC buildings needed massive repairs - or to be demolished
altogether - which would have caused a financial loss to the owners.
But instead the owner (the Silverstein group), who had conveniently
insured the WTC complex against terrorism only weeks before, got paid
out billions in insurance, allowing them to not only rebuild, but make
a hefty profit also http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/16/18297965.php

* insider trading - there were 'put options' placed on airline stocks
(a sort of bet that the stock will go down) days before the attacks
which made someone millions of dollars

* to help James Baker negotiate massive repatriations from Iraq to
Kuwait, making the Bush family/Carlysle Group billions in the process.

* it has been suggested there was a massive amount of gold bullion in
the basement beneath the WTC that was looted on 9/11 (unconfirmed).

* the removal of Saddam Hussein

* the removal of the Taliban

* a possible war on Iran?

* to help further the goals of Israel

* the establishment of permanent military bases in the oil rich Middle
East

* to keep the price of oil artificially high, so as to ensure
continued massive profits for the OPEC countries/oil companies.
http://www.gregpalast.com/big-oil-and-the-trillion-dollar-war-bonus
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-best-thing-in-the-world-for-big-oil

* the spread of "globalisation" and "corporatism" (i.e. big business
and money) e.g. massive contracts for Halliburton and other crony
firms with ties to Washington, control of the production and price of
oil http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm

* "a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters,
a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new
world elite" and

* "is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-
state political structures as a means to attain their political
objectives through people's intimidation, psychological and social
destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power
organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the
manipulation of the countries' policies and the behavior of people."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20060123&articleId=1788

* arguably to reassert their control of the opium trade (if this
sounds crazy, then remember, Britain had opium wars with China in the
19th Century to keep control of this lucrative trade, so this is
nothing new). btw, Afghanistan is the world's leading producer of
opium. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060816/ap_on_re_as/afghan_opium_boom

* to establish a precedent for the role of "pre-emptive" war in their
efforts to shape the world according to their belief systems (this
will make their next "pre-emptive" war easier to push through).

* to shake the "Vietnam Syndrome" and get the American people
accustomed to the deaths of thousands of their sons (about 2,800 so
far plus tens of thousands more maimed or injured) in order to serve
the goals of the plutocracy

* the spread of "democracy" (TM) and "freedom" (TM) across the Middle
East

( For example, I believe Hitler was sincere in his desire to establish
a "glorious thousand year Reich". Likewise, the ideologues in
Washington also have certain belief systems about how the world should
be, and are more than willing to use violence and military force to
achieve their aims.

This isn't conspiracy theory, btw. Just look at the "shock & awe"
campaign which murdered and maimed tens of thousands of innocent
people in Baghdad, or you can read their own words here:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/ Read through their visions for the
world, and see how many you agree with.)

* to pass legislation that removes the rights of dissenters who object
to these goals (e.g. the PATRIOT Act, 'anti-terrorism' laws,
government domestic surveillance etc.)

So there are plenty of motives for a 9/11 inside job!

SO WHAT CAN YOU DO?

Even if you are still skeptical, but think there are too many
questions about the events of September 11 2001 that need answers,
here are a few suggestions:

Ask Oprah to host a three-part special that investigates 9/11
http://oprah.bravocharlie911.com/

Sign the petition to release the 9/11 information that is currently
being held by the U.S. government to an independent review:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172

Get informed and share these links to several 9/11 investigative
documentaries with your friends:

Loose Change Second Edition Not perfect, but well researched and very
thought provoking. http://unsungwar.com/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6272212643859761010&q=Loose+Change+editionb
http://www.loosechange911.com

911: In Plane Site Hard-hitting investigative journalism. http://unsungwar.com/

911 Press for the Truth The families of 911 victims speak out and
question the official story of 911. http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

Rise Short and sweet - to the point! http://unsungwar.com/videos/Rise.swf

9/11 Revisited This film provides stunning evidence that pre-planted
explosives were used in the complete demolition of the WTC twin towers
and WTC 7. http://911revisited.infad.net/video.html

9/11 Eyewitness A rigorous scientific analysis of the destruction of
the WTC towers. http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/911Eyewitness.php

Here is an archive of a large selection of thought provoking
documentaries you may like to check out. http://www.question911.com/links.php
http://www.universalseed.org/

"The most powerful weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the
oppressed." Don't give them yours! http://www.snowshoefilms.com/

Perspective 9-11 This research will give you an insight into the story
behind the 9-11 attacks. http://tinyurl.com/layem

American Scholars' Symposium Scholarly panel which met in Los Angeles
for two days to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001.
The consensus: no doubt, it was an inside job.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/c-span_firestorm_911_truth_gains_momentum.htm
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=APS&ShowVidNum=
10&Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100

Everybody's Gotta Learn Some Time Compelling film outlining many
disturbing and heavily censored facts associated with the worst
terrorist attacks in American history. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8372366181300641663

David Shayler - ex-MI5 whistleblower David Shayler introduces 911
Truth Bristol's 'Face the Facts' and explains why 911 is of vital
importance today. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403286136814574974
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2953150409490347185

Unitarian pastor Davidson Loehr explains the PNAC drive to reshape a
new world order and the connection to the attacks of 9/11.
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/170806_austin_pastor.html

Pentagon Strike** What hit the Pentagon? http://unsungwar.com/videos/pentagonstrike.swf

9/11 Special: Dutch Television Documentary (20 minutes) Two senior
government ministers express grave doubts about the official 9/11
stories and the so-called "war on terror".
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11222.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8274552561914055825

Discover the Truth about the Events surrounding 9-11-01 via Video
Presentations from some of the top Scholars, Researchers, and Analysts
from the International Community. http://911busters.com/

TerrorStorm (Alex Jones) Alex Jones' latest film covers in detail the
proven history of government sponsored terrorism, and focuses on the
7/7 London bombings and 9/11. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/

911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold by Anthony Hilder Sometimes quite
opinionated, a bit long, but some valuable information never-the-less.
Worth watching. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950&hl=en

911 Guilt: The Proof is in Your Hands A Video Exposing the Core Facts
of the September 11th Attack http://wtc7.net/store/videos/proof/index.html

Watch David Ray Griffin, professor of theology, and other speakers who
speak candidly and lucidly about the events of 911.
http://911busters.com/911_new_video_productions/index.html

. . .

And finally, if you still think it's all bunkum and you can debunk the
9/11 "tin-foil hat" conspiracy brigade, then take the million dollar
challenge! I'm sure you could use a spare million bucks?

http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm
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2007-04-09 13:20:11 UTC
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He is also full of BS!
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the
California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
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2007-04-10 16:02:19 UTC
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He is also full of BS!
Not as much as you it seems, retard

plonk

Redman
Post by Razzle Fratz
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the
California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
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2007-04-10 20:51:59 UTC
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What is this "plonk"? Is that supposed to hurt me someway?
Post by Redman
Post by Razzle Fratz
He is also full of BS!
Not as much as you it seems, retard
plonk
Redman
Post by Razzle Fratz
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from
the
Post by Razzle Fratz
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California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
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Dr. A. Jones
2007-04-10 21:19:35 UTC
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What is this "plonk"? Is that supposed to hurt me someway?
How do you explain the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw Bush fly Flight 11
into the WTC, parachuting to safety at the last possible minute before impact?
Razzle Fratz
2007-04-11 00:16:00 UTC
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I THOUGHT that was him!

I saw it on CNN so it MUST be truth!
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Post by Razzle Fratz
What is this "plonk"? Is that supposed to hurt me someway?
How do you explain the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw Bush fly Flight 11
into the WTC, parachuting to safety at the last possible minute before impact?
Phlip
2007-04-11 01:04:50 UTC
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How do you explain the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw Bush fly Flight 11
into the WTC, parachuting to safety at the last possible minute before impact?
Duh, the Pentagon was an inflatable decoy - everyone knows that!
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Midex
2007-04-11 07:07:00 UTC
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Post by Razzle Fratz
What is this "plonk"? Is that supposed to hurt me someway?
How do you explain the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw Bush fly Flight 11
into the WTC, parachuting to safety at the last possible minute before impact?
So you know almost nothing about 9/11 and yet excercise your freedom
of speech so that everyone can see your proud ignorance?

Go back to teleland - teleland says "its ok to be ignorant".

Test yourself on 9/11 issues:

First two simple questions:

Q1: On September 11 2001, how many buildings collapsed in New York
City?

A: Two? No, THREE. The Twin Towers were hit by aeroplanes, but WTC 7,
a massive 47 storey steel-framed skyscraper also collapsed. It was NOT
hit by a plane. The evidence is clear - this was a controlled
demolition. http://wtc7.net/ http://911physics.co.nr/ (Click on WTC 7
link)

Q2: How long did it take the FBI to bring charges against Usama bin
Laden in connection with 911? One hour, eight hours, a day, a week?

A: Usama bin Laden is NOT on the FBI most wanted list in connection
with 911. Why not? According to FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative
Publicity Rex Tomb, "The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin
Laden to 9/11." http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4673
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm (accessed 20
August 2006)

If you believe 911 was an inside job, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Below are
just a small selection amongst the millions of credible persons
including engineers, scientists, intelligence analysts, actors,
theologians, philosophers, authors, investigative journalists,
lawyers, military personel, politicians, family members and eye-
witnesses who believe the investigation into the events of September
11 2001 must urgently be reopened.

Seekin' that ol' 911 Truth August 2006

On July 29 and 30, and then again on August 1, something happened that
increasing numbers of people believe is of great importance. On these
dates C-SPAN rebroadcast a 911 panel discussion, held originally in
late June, sponsored by an organization called the American Scholars'
Symposium to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/c-span_firestorm_911_truth_gains_momentum.htm
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=APS&ShowVidNum=10&
Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100

Held in Los Angeles, the meeting lasted two days, and the C-SPAN
rebroadcast covered one almost two-hour wrap-up session. The meeting
was attended by 1,200 people interested in hearing something other
than the official story of 9/11. The TV audience was evidently large
enough to spur C-SPAN to broadcast the panel discussion five separate
times in four days.

Even a month late, this is a lot of airtime for stories that many
people call conspiracy theories!

The seekers after 911 truth have been around for almost 5 years now,
and they're NOT GOING AWAY - they're growing day by day!

In April Charlie Sheen made national news (CNN Showbiz Tonight 7pm)
three nights in a row, with coverage continuing every day the
following week. http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/fourth-night-of-showbiz-tonights-sheen.html
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/280606juggernautoftruth.htm

What newsworthy event prompted such coverage? Mr. Sheen announced that
he thinks the government has been covering up the truth about 9/11.
Charlie thinks 9/11 was an inside job! http://9eleven.info/
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060323162638376

Two of Sheen's fellow actors, Ed Asner and Ed Begley, Jr, agree with
him. http://www.911blimp.net/videos/EdAsner-UnityIsTheKey.mov
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7140359934129245752&q=Ed+Begley+911

And so does movie director Aaron Russo.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2947267143366647266&hl=en

Maybe you don't care what they think, they're just actors. Perhaps you
want the opinion of scientists. Well, how about an expert like Steven
E Jones, professor of physics at BYU? Professor Jones has found
forensic evidence of thermate, an explosive, being used to cut through
key support pillars in the WTC buildings. http://www.9eleven.info/911JonesPaperhtm7.htm
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=4688
http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Steven%20Jones%20Shows%20WTC%20Demolition%20Evidence.wmv

Or perhaps MIT Engineer Jeff King who also believes the WTC were
brought down by a controlled demolition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248&pl=true
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=related&search_query=
News+WTC+911+Conspiracy+Flight
+77&search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=2

What about a mathematician? Professor of mathematics, University of
Western Ontario, and founder of the Scientific Panel Investigating
Nine-Eleven (SPINE), A.K Dewdney. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Dewdney

Maybe they're too theoretical for you. You want someone from the
applied sciences. May I suggest Clemson mechanical engineering
professor Judy Wood? http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/mechanical-engineering-professor-from.html
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html

Or how about Kevin Ryan, former department head at UL (Underwriter
Laboratories), the company which certified the steel which went into
the WTCs upon their construction, and inspected it after the WTC
collapses in 2001. He found the official reports to be full of lies
and contradictions. http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041112144051451
http://www.snowshoefilms.com/

Maybe you don't care for 'eggheads'. http://www.st911.org/
http://physics911.net/spine.htm http://911physics.co.nr/

You want to hear from true patriots, military men, like former head of
Star Wars and air force colonel, Bob Bowman, who says the 'official
story of 911 is a bunch of hogwash and impossible'.
http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/10/27/oil_mafia_treason/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/030306Evidence.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6900065571556128674
http://bowman2006.com/

Or USAF Col. (Ret) George Nelson, an authority on aircraft crash
investigation. http://www.physics911.net/georgenelson.htm

Or former chief Pentagon arms negotiator for the Middle East, USAF
Col. (Ret) Don de Grand-Pre http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html

Or how about military men from other countries who are also skeptics
of the 'official' story of 911? Here's a few:

Canadian National Defense Minister, the Honourable Paul Hellyer
http://www.septembereleventh.org/kc/multimedia/movies/Hellyer.mov

National Vice Minister of Defense (Germany). Also, served as Minister
of Technology Andreas Von Bulow. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8274552561914055825

Former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces, and chief of the
department for General affairs in the Soviet Union 's ministry of
Defense, General Leonid Ivashov
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20060123&articleId=1788

Maybe military types scare you. How about a lady of letters like poet
Erica Jong? http://www.etruscanpress.org/02_september_11_2001.html

Maybe you're not into poetry. Prose is more your style. How about
Webster Tarpley author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror made in USA?
http://www.tarpley.net/welcome.html

Or authors Gore Vidal, Bill Douglas or Christopher Bollyn?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13969.htm
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bollynbeaten.htm

Or if you prefer your message in song, what about putting some of the
hard questions to music? Les Visible: 9/11 Was An Inside Job (music)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=97737

Maybe you don't trust actors, authors, musicians or poets. You want to
hear from a man of God. How about David Ray Griffin theologian,
professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology?
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

The respected Presbyterian Press has recently published his book
Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11 https://www.ppcbooks.com/index1.asp

Not just into Christianity? What about MUJCA-NET, a group of scholars,
religious leaders and activists dedicated to uniting members of the
Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths in pursuit of 9/11 truth.
http://mujca.com/

How about philosophers? What about distinguished McKnight professor of
philosophy, Jim Fetzer. http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/BigLies23Apr2006.html

Or Dr. Jim Hoffman? http://911research.wtc7.net/

What could theologians and philosophers know about national security?
You want to hear from insiders to the covert world. How about CIA
analyst and former presidential adviser Ray McGovern, an expert on
National Security who's career spanned JFK to GHW Bush.
http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/01/interview_with_ray_mcgovern.html

Or Bill Christison, a former senior official of the CIA. He was a
National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of
Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm

Or how about David Shayler, the MI5 Whistleblower?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403286136814574974

Or former cop Michael C. Ruppert? http://www.fromthewilderness.com/store/books.shtml#ruby

Or former 9/11 Commission Member and democrat senator, Max Cleland,
who blasts Bush and claims "The White House Has Played Cover-Up".
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/23/1546256

Other members of the 9/11 Commission panel also believe that
authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what
happened on Sept. 11.

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was
described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led
the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview.
"The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to
us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not
true." http://unsungwar.com/

Or what about Republican Thomas Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton, the
two chairmen of the official government 9/11 Commission Report? In
their book, "Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11
Commission." Kean and Hamilton reveal that the US military committed
perjury and lied about its failure to intercept the hijacked
airliners.

"It proved difficult, if not impossible, to raise hard questions about
9/11 in New York without it being perceived as criticism of the
individual police and firefighters or of Mayor Giuliani," Kean and
Hamilton said.

The commission even debated referring the military's lies to the
Justice Department for criminal investigation.

Why should we assume that these admissions are the only coverups and
lies in the 9/11 Commission Report? http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=117589
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm

Or Cynthia McKinney, a five-term U.S. Congresswoman from Georgia's
fourth district from 1993 to 2003, or Catherine Austin Fitts, a former
Assistant Secretary of Housing under President George Bush Sr. and a
former managing director and board member of Dillon, Read & Co. Inc.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041101130426916

Or Michael Meacher MP former UK Minister for the environment who says
"The war on terror is bogus", or Andreas Von Bulow, former German
Secretary Of Defense, who says "The official [9/11] story is so
inadequate and far fetched that there must be a different one."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11222.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8274552561914055825

Or Sibel Edmonds, a 32-year-old Turkish-American, who was hired as a
translator by the FBI shortly after the terrorist attacks of September
11, 2001 because of her knowledge of Middle Eastern languages. She was
fired less than a year later in March 2002 for reporting shoddy work
and security breaches to her supervisors that could have prevented
those attacks. http://www.justacitizen.com/

Or Daniel Ellsburg, famous Vietnam 'Pentagon Papers' whistleblower and
former American military analyst and Special Assistant to the
Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/daniel-ellsberg-comes-out-for-911.html

Or how about the FBI? Did you know that the reason Usama bin Laden
isn't on their most wanted list in connection to 9/11 is because the
FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to the crimes?
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/06/fbi-states-no-hard-evidence-connects.html

What about another country's government, such as the Venezuelan
government under Hugo Chavez, supported by billionaire philanthropist
Jimmy Walter and WTC survivor William Rodriguez, which is set to
launch an international investigation into 9/11?
http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/83785

Maybe they're all too far left for you! You want to hear from a
Republican. How about Paul Craig Roberts assistant secretary of the
U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan? http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070
http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/02/post.html
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911#roberts
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm

OK, he's a Republican, but that was back in the Reagan days. So how
about Ron Paul, a Republican congressman from Texas?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html http://www.house.gov/paul/
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Ron_Paul
#Congressman_Ron_Paul_Admits_Conspiracy_to_Create_World_Government

Maybe you need to hear from someone in GW's administration. How about
Morgan Reynolds professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and chief
economist for the US Department of Labor during Bush's first term? He
believes the events of 9/11 were a staged event, orchestrated by
people within the Bush government. http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

Since the attacks of 911 were obviously a crime, maybe you want to
hear from trained legal minds. People whose job it is to carefully
investigate the details of a crime and reach a well considered
conclusion.

Well, how about attorney Philip Berg? Berg, who has filed a lawsuit
against the Bush admin on behalf of WTC survivor William Rodriguez
says "They (Bush et al) made it happen or let it happen. And if they
let it happen, then they made it happen. And they must be held
responsible." http://www.911forthetruth.com/

Or attorney Stanley Hilton? http://www.suetheterrorists.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Hilton

Or Bill Veale, with 30 years of legal experience. After much research
he has come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were in essence
an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U.S.
government. http://www.vealetruth.com/?page_id=6

Maybe none of the above does it for you. You want to hear from "eye-
witnesses" - people who were there on the scene on that fateful day.
May I suggest you listen to the firefighters who were in the building
at the time? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248&pl=true

What about first responder, NY Fireman Lou Cacchioli who says the 9/11
Commission twisted his words. "I finally walked out. They were trying
to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to
hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let
me do that, I walked out.

"It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who
lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole
experience was terrible", Fireman Lou says.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/200705twistedwords.htm

Or perhaps to news reporters who were on the scene who repeatedly
described hearing "explosions"? http://tinyurl.com/bzg64 (you need to
fast forward a little...) http://www.letsroll911.org/articles/controlleddemolition.html

Or how about WTC survivor William Rodriguez, a janitor who worked at
the WTC for about 19 years, and was decorated as a 911 hero by Bush.
He testifies that he heard and felt explosions in the basement of the
North Tower BEFORE the planes hit overhead. William asks: "How could a
jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man's arms and face to a crisp
in the basement below within seconds of impact?" It's a good question!
http://williamrodriguezwtc.blogspot.com/ http://www.911forthetruth.com/

What about the families who lost loved ones on 911?
http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html
http://www.911truth.org/index.php?topic=endorsements

Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, Patty Casazza and Monica Gabrielle
of New Jersey lost their husbands Kenneth, Alan, Richard and John who
all worked in the WTC. Sally Regenhard lost her firefighter son
Christian, and Bob McIlvaine lost his son Bobby.

None of these people are satisfied with the official story of what
happened on 9/11. Will you listen to their questions?
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/families

Well, if you don't believe any of them, why not listen to the OWNER of
the WTC, Larry Silverstein, who admits on Public Broadcast Television
that explosives were used to demolish WTC building #7?!

Yes, Silverstein, who had conveniently insured these buildings (which
had been ordered to be dismantled due to safety hazards) for billions
of dollars just weeks before 911, said on public television:

"(The Fire Department) were not sure that they were gonna be able to
contain the fire. I said, you know, we´ve had such terrible loss of
life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. They made that
decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse"

In the demolition industry, "pull" is the common term they use for
demolishing buildings with carefully positioned explosives, an
operation that can take seasoned professionals weeks to plan.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/wtc_7_archivel.htm
http://www.letsroll911.org/articles/controlleddemolition.html
http://www.wtc7.net/ http://911physics.co.nr/ (Click on WTC 7 link)

So even the building owner admits that explosives were used to
demolish at least one of the three WTC buildings!

And if planning to demolish WTC 7 had been carefully prepared for
weeks, why not the other two?

Maybe you don't want to listen to any of these individuals, but the
fact is, a lot of Americans agree with them. Like the 83% of over
50,000 CNN Showbiz Tonight online poll respondents who think the
government is covering up the truth of 9/11.
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/fourth-night-of-showbiz-tonights-sheen.html

Or a Scripps Howard News Service/Ohio University poll taken from July
6 to 24, 2006, concluded that "more than a third [36 percent] of the
American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11
terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them, so that the United
States could go to war in the Middle East." A poll done by the Zogby
polling organization two months earlier, between May 12 and 16, 2006,
concluded that 42 percent of Americans believed there had indeed been
a cover-up of the true events of 9/11, and an additional 10 percent of
Americans were "unsure." http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm

Maybe you don't care what the American people think?

Yea, we know.

[Ref. http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=11205 ]

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WHAT POSSIBLE MOTIVES COULD THERE BE FOR A 9/11 INSIDE JOB??

These are some of the plutocracy's 'foreign policy' and other lesser
goals that 9/11 (the "new Pearl Harbor") has helped them to pursue:

* to get the American people's support for an endless bogus "war on
terror" which will ensure continued gargantuan military budgets. This
will continue to enrich and empower the plutocracy and the military/
industrial complex. http://www.addictedtowar.com/

* the WTC buildings needed massive repairs - or to be demolished
altogether - which would have caused a financial loss to the owners.
But instead the owner (the Silverstein group), who had conveniently
insured the WTC complex against terrorism only weeks before, got paid
out billions in insurance, allowing them to not only rebuild, but make
a hefty profit also http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/16/18297965.php

* insider trading - there were 'put options' placed on airline stocks
(a sort of bet that the stock will go down) days before the attacks
which made someone millions of dollars

* to help James Baker negotiate massive repatriations from Iraq to
Kuwait, making the Bush family/Carlysle Group billions in the process.

* it has been suggested there was a massive amount of gold bullion in
the basement beneath the WTC that was looted on 9/11 (unconfirmed).

* the removal of Saddam Hussein

* the removal of the Taliban

* a possible war on Iran?

* to help further the goals of Israel

* the establishment of permanent military bases in the oil rich Middle
East

* to keep the price of oil artificially high, so as to ensure
continued massive profits for the OPEC countries/oil companies.
http://www.gregpalast.com/big-oil-and-the-trillion-dollar-war-bonus
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-best-thing-in-the-world-for-big-oil

* the spread of "globalisation" and "corporatism" (i.e. big business
and money) e.g. massive contracts for Halliburton and other crony
firms with ties to Washington, control of the production and price of
oil http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm

* "a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters,
a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new
world elite" and

* "is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-
state political structures as a means to attain their political
objectives through people's intimidation, psychological and social
destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power
organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the
manipulation of the countries' policies and the behavior of people."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20060123&articleId=1788

* arguably to reassert their control of the opium trade (if this
sounds crazy, then remember, Britain had opium wars with China in the
19th Century to keep control of this lucrative trade, so this is
nothing new). btw, Afghanistan is the world's leading producer of
opium. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060816/ap_on_re_as/afghan_opium_boom

* to establish a precedent for the role of "pre-emptive" war in their
efforts to shape the world according to their belief systems (this
will make their next "pre-emptive" war easier to push through).

* to shake the "Vietnam Syndrome" and get the American people
accustomed to the deaths of thousands of their sons (about 2,800 so
far plus tens of thousands more maimed or injured) in order to serve
the goals of the plutocracy

* the spread of "democracy" (TM) and "freedom" (TM) across the Middle
East

( For example, I believe Hitler was sincere in his desire to establish
a "glorious thousand year Reich". Likewise, the ideologues in
Washington also have certain belief systems about how the world should
be, and are more than willing to use violence and military force to
achieve their aims.

This isn't conspiracy theory, btw. Just look at the "shock & awe"
campaign which murdered and maimed tens of thousands of innocent
people in Baghdad, or you can read their own words here:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/ Read through their visions for the
world, and see how many you agree with.)

* to pass legislation that removes the rights of dissenters who object
to these goals (e.g. the PATRIOT Act, 'anti-terrorism' laws,
government domestic surveillance etc.)

So there are plenty of motives for a 9/11 inside job!

SO WHAT CAN YOU DO?

Even if you are still skeptical, but think there are too many
questions about the events of September 11 2001 that need answers,
here are a few suggestions:

Ask Oprah to host a three-part special that investigates 9/11
http://oprah.bravocharlie911.com/

Sign the petition to release the 9/11 information that is currently
being held by the U.S. government to an independent review:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172

Get informed and share these links to several 9/11 investigative
documentaries with your friends:

Loose Change Second Edition Not perfect, but well researched and very
thought provoking. http://unsungwar.com/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6272212643859761010&q=Loose+Change+editionb
http://www.loosechange911.com

911: In Plane Site Hard-hitting investigative journalism. http://unsungwar.com/

911 Press for the Truth The families of 911 victims speak out and
question the official story of 911. http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

Rise Short and sweet - to the point! http://unsungwar.com/videos/Rise.swf

9/11 Revisited This film provides stunning evidence that pre-planted
explosives were used in the complete demolition of the WTC twin towers
and WTC 7. http://911revisited.infad.net/video.html

9/11 Eyewitness A rigorous scientific analysis of the destruction of
the WTC towers. http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/911Eyewitness.php

Here is an archive of a large selection of thought provoking
documentaries you may like to check out. http://www.question911.com/links.php
http://www.universalseed.org/

"The most powerful weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the
oppressed." Don't give them yours! http://www.snowshoefilms.com/

Perspective 9-11 This research will give you an insight into the story
behind the 9-11 attacks. http://tinyurl.com/layem

American Scholars' Symposium Scholarly panel which met in Los Angeles
for two days to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001.
The consensus: no doubt, it was an inside job.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/c-span_firestorm_911_truth_gains_momentum.htm
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=APS&ShowVidNum=
10&Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100

Everybody's Gotta Learn Some Time Compelling film outlining many
disturbing and heavily censored facts associated with the worst
terrorist attacks in American history. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8372366181300641663

David Shayler - ex-MI5 whistleblower David Shayler introduces 911
Truth Bristol's 'Face the Facts' and explains why 911 is of vital
importance today. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403286136814574974
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2953150409490347185

Unitarian pastor Davidson Loehr explains the PNAC drive to reshape a
new world order and the connection to the attacks of 9/11.
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/170806_austin_pastor.html

Pentagon Strike** What hit the Pentagon? http://unsungwar.com/videos/pentagonstrike.swf

9/11 Special: Dutch Television Documentary (20 minutes) Two senior
government ministers express grave doubts about the official 9/11
stories and the so-called "war on terror".
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11222.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8274552561914055825

Discover the Truth about the Events surrounding 9-11-01 via Video
Presentations from some of the top Scholars, Researchers, and Analysts
from the International Community. http://911busters.com/

TerrorStorm (Alex Jones) Alex Jones' latest film covers in detail the
proven history of government sponsored terrorism, and focuses on the
7/7 London bombings and 9/11. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/

911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold by Anthony Hilder Sometimes quite
opinionated, a bit long, but some valuable information never-the-less.
Worth watching. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950&hl=en

911 Guilt: The Proof is in Your Hands A Video Exposing the Core Facts
of the September 11th Attack http://wtc7.net/store/videos/proof/index.html

Watch David Ray Griffin, professor of theology, and other speakers who
speak candidly and lucidly about the events of 911.
http://911busters.com/911_new_video_productions/index.html

. . .

And finally, if you still think it's all bunkum and you can debunk the
9/11 "tin-foil hat" conspiracy brigade, then take the million dollar
challenge! I'm sure you could use a spare million bucks?

http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm

Phlip
2007-04-11 01:02:46 UTC
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What is this "plonk"? Is that supposed to hurt me someway?
It means he configured his newsreader to "killfile" you, so he will never
read your posts again.
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Razzle Fratz
2007-04-09 13:20:37 UTC
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He is also full of BS!
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the
California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
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Razzle Fratz
2007-04-09 13:21:01 UTC
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He is also full of BS!
Post by Thebzp
Robert M. Bowman was the Director of Advanced Space Programs Development
for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, and is a
former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the
California Institute of Technology.
http://youtu.be/GGoEOlQkzMA
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