Bloodbath

[dyno dan]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 17:24:14 -0000 (UTC), Baxter

(Stuff)

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" In 2004, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences released an
evaluation from its review of existing research. After reviewing 253
journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and its own
original empirical research, it failed to identify any gun control
that had reduced violent crime, suicide, or gun accidents."

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/21760-harvard-gun-control-study-destroys-gun-control-agenda


Also:

"The popular assertion that the United States has the industrialized
world’s highest murder rate, says the Harvard study, is a throwback to
the Cold War when Russian murder rates were nearly four times higher
than American rates. In a strategic disinformation campaign, the U.S.
was painted worldwide as a gunslinging nightmare of street violence —
far worse than what was going on in Russia. The line was repeated so
many times that many believed it to be true. Now, many still do."

(same source)
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-dan z-

Liberals: "We know it doesn't work to reduce crime. But we are
paranoid about our policies causing a new American revolution. So...."
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[Baxter]

Post by dyno dan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 17:24:14 -0000 (UTC), Baxter

(Stuff)

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" In 2004, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences released an
evaluation from its review of existing research. After reviewing 253
journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and its own
original empirical research, it failed to identify any gun control
that had reduced violent crime, suicide, or gun accidents."
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/21760-harvard-gun-contr
ol-study-destroys-gun-control-agenda

Also Harvard:
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Do guns make us safer? Science suggests no

Conflicting statistics about guns—such as how many people in the U.S. use
guns for self-defense each year, and whether or not the crime rate is
tied to how many people own guns—was the subject of a recent podcast
featuring David Hemenway, professor of health policy at Harvard T.H. Chan
School of Public Health.

Hemenway, an expert on the public health impact of gun violence and
director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, was interviewed
on Science Vs, a podcast that looks at fads, trends, and opinions to
uncover what’s actually true.

Hemenway noted that one commonly cited statistic about guns—that 2.5
million people use them each year to defend themselves or their property
— is based on faulty analysis from a 1990s study. A more reliable source
of information, the National Crime Victimization Survey, pegs the number
of people who use guns in this manner at roughly 100,000, according to
Science Vs podcast host Wendy Zukerman. Hemenway added that there is no
good evidence that using a gun in self-defense reduces the likelihood of
injury. There is some evidence that having a gun may reduce property
loss, “but the evidence is equally compelling that having another weapon,
such as mace or a baseball bat, will also reduce the likelihood of
property loss,” he said.

Addressing gun lobby assertions that crime is deterred when more law-
abiding citizens carry guns, Hemenway said the evidence says otherwise.
He said that even though more and more Americans are carrying concealed
guns each year—the result of more states passing ‘right-to-carry’
laws—research has not uncovered a direct cause-and-effect relationship
between the prevalence of guns and the U.S. crime rate. However, he
noted, the presence of more guns does make crimes more violent. “What
guns do is make hostile interactions—robberies, assaults—much more
deadly,” he said.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/do-guns-make-us-safer-
science-suggests-no/


See also:
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-
self-defense-gun-use-2/

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AND THIS:

Did a 2007 Harvard University study prove that areas with higher rates of
gun ownership have lower crime rates?

There was no such official Harvard "study."

It is true, however, that gun rights advocates Gary Mauser and Don Kates
co-authored a 2007 paper in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy,
arguing that higher rates of gun ownership correlated with lower crime
rates, Snopes.com notes.

The paper, however, was not peer-reviewed, Harvard University does not
consider it a study, and it misrepresented separate research to draw
unsupported conclusions.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/reason/2015/11/21/fact-check-did-
harvard-study-prove-countries-more-guns-have-fewer/15689420007/


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Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection
that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to
rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/

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Post by Baxter

Post by dyno dan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 17:24:14 -0000 (UTC), Baxter

(Stuff)

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" In 2004, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences released an
evaluation from its review of existing research. After reviewing 253
journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and its own
original empirical research, it failed to identify any gun control
that had reduced violent crime, suicide, or gun accidents."
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/21760-harvard-gun-contr
ol-study-destroys-gun-control-agenda

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Do guns make us safer? Science suggests no

It certainly does for the person acting in self defense.

Meanwhile, I would not again how you attempt to blame an inanimate object
for the ill people do.

Until you address violent criminals.. the problem won't be solved.

"The program was designed to address the gang violence which had plagued
Richmond. At the time of its inception, the level of murders and shootings
had regularly increased each year, with Richmond's murder-per-capita rates
being one of the highest five for the country. In 1997, 140 people were
murdered, 122 of them with firearms."

"Project Exile was named for the idea that if the police catch a criminal in
Richmond with a gun in a crime, the criminal has forfeited his right to
remain in this community, will face immediate federal prosecution and stiff
mandatory federal prison sentences (often five years), and will thus be
"exiled" to federal prison, often far away from the criminal's home town."

"During the first year of Project Exile (1998), homicides in Richmond
declined 33%, for the lowest number since 1987, and armed robberies declined
30%. In 1999, homicides declined another 21%. By 2007, homicides in Richmond
were down to 57 compared to 122 in the year before Project Exile."

SOB.. simply enforcing the law and ACTUALLY prosecuting violent criminals...
has a significant impact on the rate of violent crime.

How about we actually enforce the laws with concern to violent crime that
already exist, rather than create new ones that target otherwise innocent
people?

Oh, but then, reducing/preventing violent crime really isn't your agenda...
it's just your excuse to push Unconstitutional infringements on the rights
of peaceful and innocent people.